Windows 8 RTM 1 August 2012

[spwolf]

we probably have biggest share of WP users in the world around here btw :-)

[Ramon Zarat]

I register only so I can add my 2 cent about this DMCA take down nonsense.

1-I hope someone will sue the $hit out of Micro$oft for perverting the DMCA in a weapon to impose dictatorial censorship.

2- Windows 8 *WILL* so badly, epically and miserably fail on desktop in general, and in the corporate sector specifically, that it will most certainly be fatal to Micro$oft. OK, not fatal, but very debilitating.

3- Metro interface on desktop is a f*cking plague. A disease. An affliction. A cancer. A motherf*cking virulent and purulent infection. Something that need to amputated. To be disinfected. To be incinerated. To be eradicated.

PS: F*UCK YOU, Micro$oft.
PS2: SUE ME!!!


Ramon

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by Ramon Zarat

I register only so I can add my 2 cent about this DMCA take down nonsense.

1-I hope someone will sue the $hit out of Micro$oft for perverting the DMCA in a weapon to impose dictatorial censorship.

2- Windows 8 *WILL* so badly, epically and miserably fail on desktop in general, and in the corporate sector specifically, that it will most certainly be fatal to Micro$oft. OK, not fatal, but very debilitating.

3- Metro interface on desktop is a f*cking plague. A disease. An affliction. A cancer. A motherf*cking virulent and purulent infection. Something that need to amputated. To be disinfected. To be incinerated. To be eradicated.

PS: F*UCK YOU, Micro$oft.
PS2: SUE ME!!!


Ramon

no need to be so angry about things :-)

[Regeneration]

Originally Posted by spwolf

I cant believe that Microsoft has filled an DMCA notice to google to remove this thread from google search... I would guess official reason is Metro screenshot and real one is that few people expressed negativity about Metro... that is so freaking strange.

Hi Guys,

NGOHQ.com also received a DMCA takedown notice from Microsoft (to Google) for hosting Windows 8 RTM screenshots. Our forum users (including myself) also criticized Metro (or modern UI or whatever they call it now).

http://www.ngohq.com/news/22246-micr...reenshots.html

Cheers,

[drteeth]

NGOHQ.com has a very healthy attitude to this type of thing. nVidia tried this on with them a while back. Luckily, Israeli law prevails. Tain gaz!

DrT

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by Regeneration

Hi Guys,

NGOHQ.com also received a DMCA takedown notice from Microsoft (to Google) for hosting Windows 8 RTM screenshots. Our forum users (including myself) also criticized Metro (or modern UI or whatever they call it now).

http://www.ngohq.com/news/22246-micr...reenshots.html

Cheers,

and who knows how many did that dont use Google's webmasters tool and never actually saw the notice or knew about it.

wouldnt be a lot easier for MS to fix those problems that people are referring to?

[skypx]

Wait a minute.... I just realized I didn’t post any screen shots of win8 rtm or am I losing my mind? I remember posting some elsewhere but not here.

Cool........ I think I'm done with MS, if I can't discuss new software openly, technet is useless. So when they call next year to renew my subscription, I'll refuse with a quote from Ramon Zarat!

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by skypx

Wait a minute.... I just realized I didn’t post any screen shots of win8 rtm or am I losing my mind? I remember posting some elsewhere but not here.

Cool........ I think I'm done with MS, if I can't discuss new software openly, technet is useless. So when they call next year to renew my subscription, I'll refuse with a quote from Ramon Zarat!

you posted official Press images of Metro, that are also on PCMagazine, etc, etc.

[skypx]

Originally Posted by spwolf

you posted official Press images of Metro, that are also on PCMagazine, etc, etc.

Oh yea, now I remember. But wait a minute I got the info here, a blog written by Brandon LeBlanc. So yea, now it make perfect sense.

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by skypx

Oh yea, now I remember. But wait a minute I got the info here, a blog written by Brandon LeBlanc. So yea, now it make perfect sense.

it is official image from press kit, so of course there is no reason for takedown except to remove negative comments from google search engine...

[skypx]

Originally Posted by spwolf

there is no reason for takedown except to remove negative comments from google search engine...

Wow................. That's hIlarious!

[guido]

Just found out this forum is finally getting the attention it deserves.

But getting back on topic. I installed w8 rtm on a new sdd. It now twice as fast as my win7 was. With a cold boot i'm in windows in 6 seconds.

I can pause my copy actions. USB3 is supported out of the box. I do like the start screen but it takes a few hours to get used to.

The only thing is that ms have to make it a little better when using the mouse. But thats it.

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by guido

Just found out this forum is finally getting the attention it deserves.

But getting back on topic. I installed w8 rtm on a new sdd. It now twice as fast as my win7 was. With a cold boot i'm in windows in 6 seconds.

I can pause my copy actions. USB3 is supported out of the box. I do like the start screen but it takes a few hours to get used to.

The only thing is that ms have to make it a little better when using the mouse. But thats it.

New Win8 desktop theme sure looks depressing though, all those gray windows... while on the other hand Metro is so flashy.

Did you like Aero better or Win8 gray?

[guido]

Aero does look at bit flashier.

But it's not bothering me. It sometimes looks even better. Firefox for instance.

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by guido

Aero does look at bit flashier.

But it's not bothering me. It sometimes looks even better. Firefox for instance.

i am running it in VM and it still looks to me like I have disabled hardware acceleration :-).

[guido]

It does look a bit like that

But how is your performance?

[spwolf]

Originally Posted by guido

It does look a bit like that

But how is your performance?

its VM, so I dont know... also, my Win7 is always fast when I just install it,but it degrades in performance when many programs are installed after months of usage... I doubt Win8 is very different?

[drteeth]

@ guido

Win 8 uses hibernation out of the box by default. You may not have known this as MSoft have stopped calling it that. It is dangerous and causes disk corruption if one multi-boots as can regular hibernation.

"Based on a number of reports, a quick search of the Microsoft forums, and testing, it's clear that Win8's new gimmick, called Fast Startup (hibernate on shutdown), is causing disk corruption. This occurs when partitions visible to Win8 are modified after shutdown (doesn't affect reboot). It appears that Windows does not clear its cache and remount file systems after resuming from hibernation. This "feature" is enabled in Win8 by default. We highly recommend you disable this new feature to prevent corruption to your partitions. Fast Startup can be disabled using BootIt BM 1.10 or higher via properties of the Win8 partition in Partition Work. You can also enable or disable this option in Win8:

1) Open Control Panel.
2) Choose Hardware and Sound -> Power Options
3) Click on "Choose what the power button does" on left.
4) Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable".
5) Remove the check mark from the "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" under Shutdown settings.

Until Microsoft changes the default, ensure you have a good current image of all your partitions before installing W8".

The above quote is from the Terabyte Unlimited support forums.

Turn off the feature and check your slower boot times.

DrT

[guido]

Originally Posted by drteeth

@ guido

Win 8 uses hibernation out of the box by default. You may not have known this as MSoft have stopped calling it that. It is dangerous and causes disk corruption if one multi-boots as can regular hibernation.

"Based on a number of reports, a quick search of the Microsoft forums, and testing, it's clear that Win8's new gimmick, called Fast Startup (hibernate on shutdown), is causing disk corruption. This occurs when partitions visible to Win8 are modified after shutdown (doesn't affect reboot). It appears that Windows does not clear its cache and remount file systems after resuming from hibernation. This "feature" is enabled in Win8 by default. We highly recommend you disable this new feature to prevent corruption to your partitions. Fast Startup can be disabled using BootIt BM 1.10 or higher via properties of the Win8 partition in Partition Work. You can also enable or disable this option in Win8:

1) Open Control Panel.
2) Choose Hardware and Sound -> Power Options
3) Click on "Choose what the power button does" on left.
4) Click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable".
5) Remove the check mark from the "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" under Shutdown settings.

Until Microsoft changes the default, ensure you have a good current image of all your partitions before installing W8".

The above quote is from the Terabyte Unlimited support forums.

Turn off the feature and check your slower boot times.

DrT

I changed it thanks. A well this is the price you pay for being one of the first.

I reboot my pc once a month...

[drteeth]

Guido,

Glad to help. It is a real problem for me here as I have one driver dedicated to OSs (seven at last count) and my data partitions are visible to all OSs.

Good name, my real name is the English version.

DrT

[Regeneration]

Microsoft has issued a response on this matter: http://www.ngohq.com/news/22271-micr...criticism.html

[spwolf]

just got notified by Microsoft testing team (PA has been included into their testing for a while now) how one cancel dialogue in installer doesnt look good under 150 dpi - as they are doing Win8 150dpi tests due to the fact that many tablets and laptops will come with 150dpi...

I always find it cool when they notify us of things like that and that they do 3rd party testing to make sure their customers are treated right... so kudos to them :-)

[guido]

always great to feel important...

[Sir Richard]

Sounds like they have really taken a turn and listened to their customer's. The core to windows 8 is around end user feedback over the past few years.

Its great they are speaking to 3rd party developers.

It also is a sign that PowerArchiver is seen in Microsoft's eyes as a core 3rd part product.

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by Sir Richard

Sounds like they have really taken a turn and listened to their customer's.

I doubt that, if they did listen to their customers "metro" would be history.

[drteeth]

Originally Posted by Luxor

I doubt that, if they did listen to their customers "metro" would be history.

Exactly. By the time I have modified all the Metro crud out of the way and got my start menu back and disabled the quick start/shut down*, all I am left with is a poor version of Windows 7 that accesses the hard disk a LOT when idle. Many of the UI config options have disappeared too.

*It is a version of hibernation and if one multi-boots and has common partitions, one can get massive disk corruption.

DrT

[spwolf]

if they simply give back those two options they had in early betas, with start menu and straight to desktop, nobody would have complained at all.

honestly, my original metro apps by MS dont work anymore... i have no idea why :-)

[Luxor]

Originally Posted by spwolf

honestly, my original metro apps by MS dont work anymore... i have no idea why :-)

Clue = "by MS"

[Sir Richard]

I've had MS Windows 8 installed on a Laptop, but must admit I installed Start8 to bring back the menu.

Other than that I've had no major issues. Other than it never likes to shut down fully, often hangs.

But hay ho! the standard PC is being killed off, further sales of tablets and smart phones are up and pc sales are down consistently.

We will all be swiping screens in the next 3 to 5 years.

[drteeth]

All the colour and desktop options have gone. I hate each window having a 4 unit border padding and not being able to change it or the colours - looks like the pastel default Win XP theme <barf>.