How does PA 07 work on Vista?

denzilla · #1 01-30-2007, 04:59 PM

Does PA disable Vista's built in zip support? Any possible conflicts? On XP, I unregistered XP's zip dll file but I wasn't sure about Vista. Thanks in advance!

spwolf · #2 01-30-2007, 05:05 PM

should work perfectly fine. PA doesnt disable Vista's built in support, there is no need for that, it just associates itself with zip archives.

denzilla · #3 01-30-2007, 06:05 PM

Glad to hear it

The only reason I disabled it in XP is because of the way XP handled zipfiles. If you had a ton of zips in a directory, it would slow the scrolling way down.

Any ETA on a Final?

jowood · #4 01-31-2007, 08:33 AM

If I right-click on the sample zipfile in the PA directory (TUTOR1.zip) to extract it in the same directory nothing happens.

Sir Richard · #5 01-31-2007, 09:11 AM

Denzilla, Funny enough I was going to ask the same question..

PA How far are we from the final?

spwolf · #6 01-31-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jowood

If I right-click on the sample zipfile in the PA directory (TUTOR1.zip) to extract it in the same directory nothing happens.

is that an bug report? :-)

jowood · #7 01-31-2007, 01:07 PM

Hmmm, we are in Tech Support and a feature is not working as it should - so you can call it a bug report.

spwolf · #8 01-31-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jowood

Hmmm, we are in Tech Support and a feature is not working as it should - so you can call it a bug report.

we are in "How does PA 07 work on Vista" thread :-). So, you should start an different thread for bug report.

But I think your issue is probably with having to restart your computer after installation - have you done so?

thanks,

jowood · #9 01-31-2007, 03:36 PM

I just installed B8 and now something happens.

A error message is shown:

---------------------------
PowerArchiver
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Error creating destination file "". Check that file is not in use.
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OK
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spwolf · #10 01-31-2007, 03:55 PM

screenshot please...

jowood · #11 01-31-2007, 04:05 PM

Here you are

spwolf · #12 01-31-2007, 04:14 PM

oh, welcome to Windows Vista... you can create files in C:\program files\

spwolf · #13 01-31-2007, 04:15 PM

we will check for better error message, thanks for reminding me about that

spwolf · #14 01-31-2007, 04:16 PM

What version of Vista are you using?

What it does is sends the file to another folder which is somewhere in your Users folder... I need to check better for that...

jowood · #15 01-31-2007, 04:21 PM

You can create files in C:\Program Files but you have to deal with UAC. There are other compression programs around which support UAC already. So it should be possible for PA too.

I'm using the final RTM build.

spwolf · #16 01-31-2007, 04:29 PM

We need to check on that since I have not found anything 2 months ago when looking for it....

spwolf · #17 01-31-2007, 04:48 PM

p.s. it should work if you set PA to be started as running under admin, by right clicking on pa.exe... Try if that works?

thanks

spwolf · #18 01-31-2007, 05:08 PM

You see, if people dont complain, we will not find out about things that we need fixing, so COMPLAIN!!!

jowood · #19 02-01-2007, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spwolf

p.s. it should work if you set PA to be started as running under admin, by right clicking on pa.exe... Try if that works?

thanks

Yes, it works if I set pa.exe to start everytime with admin rights. But now PA requests admin rights on every start. That is not the intention of UAC. PA should only request admin rights if there is a need for.

spwolf · #20 02-01-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jowood

Yes, it works if I set pa.exe to start everytime with admin rights. But now PA requests admin rights on every start. That is not the intention of UAC. PA should only request admin rights if there is a need for.

yep... except that UAC doesnt allow for runtime elevation of rights, so you end up with having to redesign how you do everything because of it...

If we could do it at run time, change process rights, while showing an notification window, then it would be easy.

jowood · #21 02-01-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spwolf

yep... except that UAC doesnt allow for runtime elevation of rights, so you end up with having to redesign how you do everything because of it...

Try to copy a file with Explorer to the program files dir. Explorer requests elevation and the operation continues.

spwolf · #22 02-01-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jowood

Try to copy a file with Explorer to the program files dir. Explorer requests elevation and the operation continues.

as an different process...

jowood · #23 02-01-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spwolf

as an different process...

No. Open the task manager and you will see, that no additional explorer.exe is launching...

spwolf · #24 02-01-2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jowood

No. Open the task manager and you will see, that no additional explorer.exe is launching...

you can elevate com objects, you cant elevate process... You can check it out on MSDN if you wish.

This is done so virus or spyware cant elevate itself half an hour after you clicked on it, and then show you false name in the prompt...

spwolf · #25 02-01-2007, 01:27 PM

p.s. we can do that too anyway, it is just not an 5 minute job of elevating the process, rather you have to rewrite how application creates and extracts files (do it outside main PA process).

jowood · #26 02-01-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spwolf

you can elevate com objects, you cant elevate process... You can check it out on MSDN if you wish.

Cool, than you have to work with elevated COM objects.

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